About 70 years ago, the world watched Nazi Germany massacre millions before anyone did anything to stop it.
In 2014, we watch the strategic elimination of the Palestinian people.
70 years from now, the world will look back and wonder how we did nothing to stop it before the…
The post said nothing about sending troops. It’s about actually doing something instead of watching idly. I agree with the fact that what we need now is mass diplomacy, but Washington hasn’t done that. They’ve just been watching…which is the problem
He compared it to Nazi Germany in WW2 which was resolved with military conflict. They also haven’t been just watching. The UN and John Kerry have been all over it trying to talk them into a cease fire. People talk about this conflict a lot “Oh wow, man this needs to stop. Israel is sick,” but do people even know why this is happening or follow it on the news to keep updated with it?
You’re taking the reference further than intended. He’s just explaining that millions died in Nazi Germany before anyone raised their voice, and when we look back we ask ourselves why it took so long. Either way, in the past Washington has usually called a halt to stop conflict between Israel and Gaza, and it works. However, though Washington went with the UN Security Council’s statement, it has refrained from publicly pressuring Netanyahu in any way. And people saying “Oh wow, man this needs to stop” does not mean they don’t know what’s happening or that they don’t keep updated. It’s a statement saying that the deaths of hundreds, many of which are civilians, shouldn’t happen. There’s no problem with that.
Well, if you believe that the diplomatic talks to get a cease fire is “sitting idly,” then what does OP consider being active (military action)? Also, John Kerry and Ban Ki-Moon were in Cario just this Monday to negotiate a cease fire. Saying that we’re being idle literally makes no sense, there’s only so much we can do. Ironically enough, the Hamas are refusing to cooperate with a ceasefire even though it’s their own people dying. This is what I mean, yore talking about publicly pressuring Netanyahu when we HAVE been, he’s even publicly acknowledging addressed this, but he says it’s the Hamas goal to create as many civilian casualties as possible SO people will keep pressuring him. And I never said people who say “This needs to stop” don’t know what’s going on, but the majority of them DONT. To a lot of people this is just a fad like Kony2012. Don’t believe me? Ask a couple people about what’s going on and you’ll see. You’ll probably get an answer like “Hurr Durr, the Israels are slaughtering civilians.” Which is literally the most uninformed answer you can possibly give.
I never said diplomatic talks to get a cease fire is “sitting idly”, I was just trying to break down OP’s meaning in his post. Which, by the way, was made on the 19th, before any substantial efforts had begun to be made. Obama announced that Kerry was going to Cairo just earlier today. When OP made this post, saying the world has been idle DID make sense. And don’t get me wrong, it’s not like I’m pro Hamas. They both have done wrong things, and all I want to see is this problem resolved. So Hamas not cooperating with a cease fire is just as problematic to me. And I agree that most people don’t know much about this, but your original statement about the ignorance of society when it comes to this issue did not differentiate between “most” and those that have sought information. You made it seem like all those who complained about the death and violence had no idea what they were talking about, which isn’t true.
"Obama announced that Kerry was going to Cairo just earlier today."
Obama announced this a day ago…and John Kerry arrived today….which is Monday.
"Which, by the way, was made on the 19th"
Obama talked with the Prime Minister on the 10th to tell him he was willing to broker a ceasefire. The UN also got involved on the 12th and talked with the Israeli’s AND Hamas, telling them they were breaking international laws.
"but your original statement about the ignorance of society"
I never made a statement that was unable to differentiate between the ignorant and the informed. If you’ll note, I asked a question, asking if anyone was
"And as the bloodshed continued Monday, U.S. President Barack Obama announced that he has instructed Secretary of State John Kerry to "push for an immediate cessation of hostilities.""
According to this article to CNN it was announced on Monday; hence, I took it as being on Monday. Either way, it’s after Sunday. When it comes to your second point, I admit, I was off. It seems there was more being done than I realized. I should have made sure of that before I claimed anything else. However, I think it is also important to consider what the public has done, which includes educating ourselves about the issue at hand.
“People talk about this conflict a lot “Oh wow, man this needs to stop. Israel is sick,” but do people even know why this is happening or follow it on the news to keep updated with it?”
In the above comment you made you question whether anyone (People) who says “this needs to stop” knows what is actually happening or is educated about the issue. How does “People” differentiate between the ignorant and informed? You’re still belittling anyone who even comments about how bad things are there by basically saying “do you even know what’s going on here?”.
In the end, I believe all three of us want the same thing, which is peace between Israel and Palestine. I don’t think any of us are happy about the fact that innocent civilians are being killed. I believe what OP wanted to show was that many have died, and many more may still die, and in the future people will ask “why?”. As we always do when looking back at the past and the mistakes humanity has made. It looks like the UN is making some efforts to stop all of this, and Obama has talked to the Prime Minister and even sent Kerry. However, this is not the first time nor the last time such an issue between Palestine and Israel has occurred. There is a problem there that is continuing to brew and brew. At this point we have to look at solving it before it gets worse. Before more innocent civilians die.
I guess these guys are time travelers then “http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/20/john-kerry-to-travel-to-cairo-in-search-of-mideast-truce-u-n-security-council-reportedly-will-hold-emergency-meeting/”
And it’s not belittling anyone. The informed are going to look at this and think “Wow, do people actually know what’s going on?” Because if you’re informed why would you feel belittled? And the informed will look at themselves and ask “Do I actually know what’s going on?”
And my problem with OP’s post is his comparison to the clear evil of Nazi Germany. The Israeli-Gaza conflict isn’t as simple as “Wow, there’s a really bad person out there doing bad things,” which was the case with WW2, but here there is no bad guy and no good guy. This is not a “Strategic Elimination of the Palestine people.” That’s such an ignorant statement. The Hamas are an acknowledged terrorist organization that has gained military power, the have tunnels that lead into Israel so they can attack Israeli citizens. If it seems like people are doing nothing, it’s because there’s not much that can be done. If you slap Israel on the wrist you’re supporting a terrorist organization, which is now in control of a country, and if you let Israel continue then who knows how many innocent civilians will die in the crossfire. This is not comparable to Nazi Germany in anyway, there is no right or wrong side here. It’s just sad, that’s the end.